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		<title>By: Phase</title>
		<link>http://www.giantgayrepellentumbrella.com/2009/06/the-bible-defines-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-581</link>
		<dc:creator>Phase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@realist, 

 Read Keeper of The Umbrella&#039;s post for a definition of what a marriage certificate is for and the rights it affords the straight couples who have them.  I am an atheist male who is married to a woman and because of that fact we are given more rights than a same sex couple who love each other just as intensely as me and my wife do, that is the entire problem.  My marriage was officiated by a gay man who was given the authority by the state we live in to conduct the ceremony legally and it had no religious context whatsoever.  We want to spend the rest of our lives together and being married simply gives us and our children more rights and privileges.  The man who married us and his partner should be able to enjoy the same rights as a couple we do as they desperately want to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@realist, </p>
<p> Read Keeper of The Umbrella&#8217;s post for a definition of what a marriage certificate is for and the rights it affords the straight couples who have them.  I am an atheist male who is married to a woman and because of that fact we are given more rights than a same sex couple who love each other just as intensely as me and my wife do, that is the entire problem.  My marriage was officiated by a gay man who was given the authority by the state we live in to conduct the ceremony legally and it had no religious context whatsoever.  We want to spend the rest of our lives together and being married simply gives us and our children more rights and privileges.  The man who married us and his partner should be able to enjoy the same rights as a couple we do as they desperately want to.</p>
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		<title>By: realist</title>
		<link>http://www.giantgayrepellentumbrella.com/2009/06/the-bible-defines-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-574</link>
		<dc:creator>realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@K. Sek If you are truly Atheist then why are you getting married? Marriage IS a ritual, a rrite, and if you don&#039;t think so, then you just don&#039;t understand what marriage is.  What is it that dictates that you feel the need to unite with another human if not religion or spirituality? How can you even believe in that if you don&#039;t believe in spirituality? You have to believe in a soul or spirit in order to believe in joining them. Also if you are atheist, then who is marrying you? Who is observing that union? If it&#039;s the state, then wouldn&#039;t that be your &quot;god&quot;?  What is marriage to you if not a ritual? There is so much doublethink in this world that we forget the core purpose and intention of these rituals. If you are not engaging in a ceremony, then your relationship is de-facto just as Nick was talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@K. Sek If you are truly Atheist then why are you getting married? Marriage IS a ritual, a rrite, and if you don&#8217;t think so, then you just don&#8217;t understand what marriage is.  What is it that dictates that you feel the need to unite with another human if not religion or spirituality? How can you even believe in that if you don&#8217;t believe in spirituality? You have to believe in a soul or spirit in order to believe in joining them. Also if you are atheist, then who is marrying you? Who is observing that union? If it&#8217;s the state, then wouldn&#8217;t that be your &#8220;god&#8221;?  What is marriage to you if not a ritual? There is so much doublethink in this world that we forget the core purpose and intention of these rituals. If you are not engaging in a ceremony, then your relationship is de-facto just as Nick was talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: maddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>maddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 15:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is fab.. the dissection of he bible should be taught in schools..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is fab.. the dissection of he bible should be taught in schools..</p>
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		<title>By: K. Sek</title>
		<link>http://www.giantgayrepellentumbrella.com/2009/06/the-bible-defines-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator>K. Sek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@nick, First of all, amoeba don&#039;t have any delegation of male and female, earthworms have both male and female parts, and females impregnate the males in seahorses. Your view of &#039;life&#039; seems to be complex life forms, which means your assumption that all life is naturally in the form of males and females is foolish. Even if I was to specify &#039;complex life forms with gender differentiation&#039; and then make that statement, with all the varieties of sexuality even outside of humanity, and the fact that eighty to ninety non-human species have been documented beyond doubt (with many, many more undocumented or documented but not stringently proven yet) to have homosexual proclivities, everything from dolphins to fireflies, your view of what is natural contains holes big enough to drive a truck through. 

Second of all, it&#039;s very clear that you don&#039;t understand the difference between homosexuality and being transgendered - wanting to be a different gender and being attracted to the same gender are not the same. In fact, love, lust, and sexuality in general are too complex to be narrowed down to /don&#039;t you know it should be a woman and a man./ And further, I want to know something very, very important from you, and I look forward to this answer: who is being hurt? 

If a man and another man, or a woman and another woman, love each other enough to want to spend the rest of their lives together, who is that hurting? The family? When gay couples adopt, their children have consistently rated their happiness and productivity at school higher than the adopted children of straight couples. Marriage? Are you telling me that religious people won&#039;t get married because gay people can be married to? Good luck to them, it&#039;ll be lonely having no or pre-marital sex for the rest of their life. The government? I don&#039;t see how the love lives of individuals affects the government in any way.

For the rest, that whole &quot;Marriage is religious!&quot; nonsense, well, atheists are married all over the world. You might not get married, but I fully intend to, and I&#039;m an atheist. I can&#039;t say anymore without stepping on Keeper of the Umbrella&#039;s toes, so I won&#039;t. Have a pleasant day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@nick, First of all, amoeba don&#8217;t have any delegation of male and female, earthworms have both male and female parts, and females impregnate the males in seahorses. Your view of &#8216;life&#8217; seems to be complex life forms, which means your assumption that all life is naturally in the form of males and females is foolish. Even if I was to specify &#8216;complex life forms with gender differentiation&#8217; and then make that statement, with all the varieties of sexuality even outside of humanity, and the fact that eighty to ninety non-human species have been documented beyond doubt (with many, many more undocumented or documented but not stringently proven yet) to have homosexual proclivities, everything from dolphins to fireflies, your view of what is natural contains holes big enough to drive a truck through. </p>
<p>Second of all, it&#8217;s very clear that you don&#8217;t understand the difference between homosexuality and being transgendered &#8211; wanting to be a different gender and being attracted to the same gender are not the same. In fact, love, lust, and sexuality in general are too complex to be narrowed down to /don&#8217;t you know it should be a woman and a man./ And further, I want to know something very, very important from you, and I look forward to this answer: who is being hurt? </p>
<p>If a man and another man, or a woman and another woman, love each other enough to want to spend the rest of their lives together, who is that hurting? The family? When gay couples adopt, their children have consistently rated their happiness and productivity at school higher than the adopted children of straight couples. Marriage? Are you telling me that religious people won&#8217;t get married because gay people can be married to? Good luck to them, it&#8217;ll be lonely having no or pre-marital sex for the rest of their life. The government? I don&#8217;t see how the love lives of individuals affects the government in any way.</p>
<p>For the rest, that whole &#8220;Marriage is religious!&#8221; nonsense, well, atheists are married all over the world. You might not get married, but I fully intend to, and I&#8217;m an atheist. I can&#8217;t say anymore without stepping on Keeper of the Umbrella&#8217;s toes, so I won&#8217;t. Have a pleasant day.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said. thank you very much for your argument. It has given me some thinking to do. I hope your cause is heard.:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said. thank you very much for your argument. It has given me some thinking to do. I hope your cause is heard.:D</p>
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		<title>By: Keeper of the Umbrella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keeper of the Umbrella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nick, 
I don&#039;t know much about the &quot;de-facto Relationships&quot; in Australia, but here in the US, a marriage certificate is not religious. It is a legal contract between two people that is recognized automatically by all 50 states and the federal government (the US is a republic). The marriage certificate gets you about 1800 rights and privileges.  It would cost many tens of thousands of dollars to recreate all of those legal protections with lawyer-generated contracts. *SOME* states have Civil Unions for same sex partners, but they never grant all of the same rights in privileges and are not recognized by most other states or the federal government. (even though the constitution says they must be -- there are legal obstacles setup to prevent the contracts from being recognized: DOMA)

So a civil marriage in the US will allow a committed same sex couple to protect assets, grant rights and privileges, and (most importantly in my opinion) give recognition that two people want to live their lives together and create a family. Maybe it&#039;s not the same kind of family you&#039;re used to, but it&#039;s still a family. 

Same sex marriage will do nothing to stop the nature of all living things which is male and female -- except of course for gays and lesbians, who for them/us the natural order of things i male-male or female-female. Human beings are very complex animals. Not everyone is like you. But just because some of us are different, doesn&#039;t mean we deserve to be ghettoized or disrespected by saying there is something else we should get instead of a civil marriage. 

And just because you don&#039;t want to get married, doesn&#039;t mean you should deny someone else&#039;s desire to get married. There is nothing religious about a state issue civil marriage certificate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick,<br />
I don&#8217;t know much about the &#8220;de-facto Relationships&#8221; in Australia, but here in the US, a marriage certificate is not religious. It is a legal contract between two people that is recognized automatically by all 50 states and the federal government (the US is a republic). The marriage certificate gets you about 1800 rights and privileges.  It would cost many tens of thousands of dollars to recreate all of those legal protections with lawyer-generated contracts. *SOME* states have Civil Unions for same sex partners, but they never grant all of the same rights in privileges and are not recognized by most other states or the federal government. (even though the constitution says they must be &#8212; there are legal obstacles setup to prevent the contracts from being recognized: DOMA)</p>
<p>So a civil marriage in the US will allow a committed same sex couple to protect assets, grant rights and privileges, and (most importantly in my opinion) give recognition that two people want to live their lives together and create a family. Maybe it&#8217;s not the same kind of family you&#8217;re used to, but it&#8217;s still a family. </p>
<p>Same sex marriage will do nothing to stop the nature of all living things which is male and female &#8212; except of course for gays and lesbians, who for them/us the natural order of things i male-male or female-female. Human beings are very complex animals. Not everyone is like you. But just because some of us are different, doesn&#8217;t mean we deserve to be ghettoized or disrespected by saying there is something else we should get instead of a civil marriage. </p>
<p>And just because you don&#8217;t want to get married, doesn&#8217;t mean you should deny someone else&#8217;s desire to get married. There is nothing religious about a state issue civil marriage certificate.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matt, I have two questions.  Why is there such a desire for gays to be married? I personally do not wish to be married because it is a religious ceremony. In Australia we have &quot;de-facto Relationships&quot; Which have the same rights a married couple would. How does marriage make a difference? My second question is how can homosexual males and females ignore the nature of all living things which is a male and a female together?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt, I have two questions.  Why is there such a desire for gays to be married? I personally do not wish to be married because it is a religious ceremony. In Australia we have &#8220;de-facto Relationships&#8221; Which have the same rights a married couple would. How does marriage make a difference? My second question is how can homosexual males and females ignore the nature of all living things which is a male and a female together?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nick, so I assume you only have sex when you want to procreate, and that you use no form of birth control, ever. How sad, considering the growing problem of overpolulation. 
How would two people of the same sex getting married change your marriage? If you don&#039;t like it, don&#039;t get married to a dude. Gays are not trying to end marriage between a man and a woman, so you have nothing to fear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick, so I assume you only have sex when you want to procreate, and that you use no form of birth control, ever. How sad, considering the growing problem of overpolulation.<br />
How would two people of the same sex getting married change your marriage? If you don&#8217;t like it, don&#8217;t get married to a dude. Gays are not trying to end marriage between a man and a woman, so you have nothing to fear.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JfC, Look I understand this is a hot topic and many people might disagree but...

I personally believe I have the right to object to gay marriage without persecution. It is my contention that homosexual relations are purely forms of masturbation and have no purpose to the creation of life at all. I believe that &quot;marriage&quot; is between a man and a woman and is solely a religious ceremony. I feel outraged that my beliefs are being squashed by the politically correct world. If a same sex couple wish to be together that is not my problem? How would a marriage change their love?

Thanks for reading</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JfC, Look I understand this is a hot topic and many people might disagree but&#8230;</p>
<p>I personally believe I have the right to object to gay marriage without persecution. It is my contention that homosexual relations are purely forms of masturbation and have no purpose to the creation of life at all. I believe that &#8220;marriage&#8221; is between a man and a woman and is solely a religious ceremony. I feel outraged that my beliefs are being squashed by the politically correct world. If a same sex couple wish to be together that is not my problem? How would a marriage change their love?</p>
<p>Thanks for reading</p>
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		<title>By: JfC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JfC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@nick, It doesn&#039;t come up much in America. Please enlighten us with a non-religious argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@nick, It doesn&#8217;t come up much in America. Please enlighten us with a non-religious argument.</p>
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